[MenaceInc]

all i can say is oh my god....

it's done by a guy called Monohouse

http://manoa.flnet.org/

this is the hardcore among hardcore for customising XP....
he got his installed size down to 114MB
just don't expect it to look pretty :P

[x3sphere]

wow, lol. I give him props for that.

[roe-ur-boat]

haha, that's amazing. The actual iso image must be only 50mb or something

[dennis96411]

They should make an psp emulator out of that, now that is just sweetly awsome.

[Darkchild]

hmmm the website is down :S

[Acerthief]

I guess it's just a timeout.

[MenaceInc]

yea,it went down when i foudn it and was reading through it but it was back up after a while.think it may be hosted on his own computer...

[monohouse]

it's not 110, your information is outdated or maybe incorrect as well
it is 40 for the server edition, and 60 for the standard edition, and it could be smaller, unfortunately, currently the lagging part is the software not the system, so from this point forward the software is what is going to take most of the time to figure out, but then that is highly dependent on the person that is running it, and/or his preferences, it's my regret to inform you that computers were never intended to be used outside the professional circles, that has not changed, and never will, so if you whant a good version for yourself you gonna have to know everything there is to know about it, there is no way i can make a version that will be compatible for everyone, as a result, the project became unnecessary because of the simple reason : anyone that is qualified to be able to use the deleted edition is also qualified to be able to create a version of his own - without the help of my Deleted Edition.

if your requirements are specific and software base is well-defined (and even better if it is pre-defined), it is quite possible to use this edition for your specific purposes at near maximum efficiency, I may even be able and if able be willing to assist you with your development purposes to make a version of microsuck winblows xp deleted edition into a microsuck winblows PSP deleted edition

yet I do have doubts about the efficiency of emulators of any kind, yet emulated is better than none at all, but still you might want to know that there are linux operating systems for the PSP, which are better by far than any emulated version of winblows, whether it's xp or not, the linux department has always had the upper hand in all external equipment.

[MenaceInc]

Originally Posted by monohouse

it's not 110, your information is outdated or maybe incorrect as well
it is 40 for the server edition, and 60 for the standard edition, and it could be smaller, unfortunately, currently the lagging part is the software not the system, so from this point forward the software is what is going to take most of the time to figure out, but then that is highly dependent on the person that is running it, and/or his preferences, it's my regret to inform you that computers were never intended to be used outside the professional circles, that has not changed, and never will, so if you whant a good version for yourself you gonna have to know everything there is to know about it, there is no way i can make a version that will be compatible for everyone, as a result, the project became unnecessary because of the simple reason : anyone that is qualified to be able to use the deleted edition is also qualified to be able to create a version of his own.

if your requirements are specific and software base is well-defined (and even better if it is pre-defined), it is quite possible to use this edition for your specific purposes at near maximum efficiency, I may even be able and if able be willing to assist you with your development purposes to make a version of microsuck winblows xp deleted edition into a microsuck winblows PSP deleted edition

yet I do have doubts about the efficiency of emulators of any kind, yet emulated is better than none at all, but still you might want to know that there are linux operating systems for the PSP, which are better by far than any emulated version of winblows, whether it's xp or not, the linux department has always had the upper hand in all external equipment.

since you appear to be the guy responsible for Deleted Edition,i apoligise if i appear to have gotten my figures wrong but this thread is quite a bit old and as far as i can remember, the figures i said were the one's that were posted on your site at the time.

i also apoligise if that sounded hostile or aggresive.
on another note,i'd like to say,that's really impressive what you've been able to do with XP.

i myself have only messed about with nLite a bit but thats nothing compared to what you've done with this.


also,don't give up on XP Deleted Edition....it's almost like LFS but for windows :P

[monohouse]

btw, don't know if you have noticed or not, but on the site you will find screen shots of my LFS, nothing to apoligise for, figures wrong have been updated, and yeah, it's possbile that a year ago it was only 110 MB, and also btw, the major reason for the development of Deleted Edition is disapointment of the X window system in Linux - the first is the too-bloated X-window system (or X.Org) and the second is when someone was able to hack into my system using a simple X-window exploit, the third reason is in Linux itself, for the most part, development directions for gui-based software (less gtk-1 and more gtk-2), in #4 lack of efficiency of hardware-utlization (Kx Project), Video card drivers and some other things that aren't worth mentioning and are quite obvious to all Linux users (unavailability of software), unfortunately the more Linux is trying to get famous the worse it gets - more bloat finding it's way into it over time, like alot of good software is gnome or kde based, and those window managers are crap, but that's my own personal opinion, so that was the reason to create Deleted Edition, at the time I did not know if it was possible to get something as bad as microsuck winblows to be able to compare to Linux, but if the software is right it can achieve high uptimes as linux, at least - so far - there were no BSOD's yet in any of my Deleted Editions.

and btw, the Deleted Edition is no longer "Microsuck Winblows XP Deleted Edition" it is now called just "Microsuck Winblows Deleted Edition" because it is now a combination of all the available microcrap there is, starting from 98SE and all the way to the 2003 Server.

and btw, I am no longer certain that the Linux/Winblows is the only way, I think that there are many other things, like Menuet and FreeDOS, but considering the hardware side of things and unavailability of hardware information, that is going to be stalled, there was one other forgot it's name, it was supposed to be binary-compatible with win32 but is barely had the ability to run notepad, though maybe recent versions did

still I agree, Deleted Edition is still the only way to reach maximum utilization of hardware and possibilities of the computer in practice, the others have a much higher potential, especially the 100%-ASM ones, but they are so far away from practical that may take a very long time to be on-par with current stuff, and I am still waiting with everyone else here, until that time is due, Linux is closer to that time, than anything else, but winblows, unfortunately - is already here - but it seems that the reason it is here - is obvious, so I guess I have chosen to fix that part, and maybe I have made some progress with that, so far from various examinations, the deleted edition is MUCH faster than it's 160-mb-away-brother the nLite, after all, deleted edition is based on nLite and it continues it's undevelopment (deletion) from where nLite has stopped (nLite maximum deletion capability is measured at ~200 MB on disk), so at between 40 and 60 major improvements can be found, but that's not just speed - but also memory usage and security, but the methods that are used require specific software - and that is a potential disadvantage which I am still trying to properly fix

one last thing - it's good to see that someone somewhere out there like here, has any interest at all in my "work", while this may not be a programming of a whole new operating system, it's still good to know that someone believes that such a thing as Deleted Edition can be useful and maybe productive, I had some people from boot land also send me some notes about my "work", and some people from nLite too, so if someone, just one, says that there is a point in working on something like that, it means that this work has some value to it.

so, until Menuet/FreeDOS 32/Linux will be ready, I think I will be working with Deleted Edition and wait for those much-higher potential systems to take advantage of their potential in practice, I think that I consider Deleted Edition a beta version of Menuet/FreeDOS 32/Linux, to show what can be done - and if that can be done with winblows - I can only imagine what can be done with those three...and maybe that proves something

oh and almost forgot, "pretty" is now part of Deleted Edition's vocabulary at no performance expense - thanks to blackbox for windows (bblean) and 3d color changer (3dcc) and some registry additions of my own, which can all be seen on the site and also on boxshots there is an image of the deleted edition system, there was also made a version of blackbox specifically for deleted edition which has been optimized to death using ICC10 as well as some other undevelopment of manual reduction of code, one thing is for sure - Deleted Edition is based on open source software for the most part