Invisible Children - Kony 2012 - Share This, Seriously.

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  1. Dan

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    [video=vimeo;37119711]http://vimeo.com/37119711[/video]

    http://vimeo.com/37119711
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    PR0fessor Burnt Active Member

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    Good post from Reddit

  3. Robby

    Robby Los Doyers!

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    So it took a guy to make a video for people to actually notice this? It's been happening since the 80s and not much has changed since.
    I don't see alot of people making an effort to do something about this other then flooding my twitter and youtube comments with #kony2012

    Yes this is sad, but what are people doing now to change it?
  4. MenaceInc

    MenaceInc Staff Member Staff Member

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    Children have been used in warfare for a long time before the 80s. I agree though in that this slacktivism isn't going to do any good. If however, every single person who posted about it donated even a single dollar/pound to a charity that did more than make videos that pretty much say "This man is bad and should be stopped" then perhaps it would make a difference.
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    BlackSheep JungleNutz

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    Ive been knowing about this for ages i lived about it in school. only 30% of the cash from invisible children goes to the cause.
  6. Dan

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    Stop being such a hipster
  7. BlackSheep

    BlackSheep JungleNutz

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    Hipsters get mad that people know i love that people know about this is great.
    PS. I started saying hipster a long time be for it was cool now we got twats like dan saying it ;)
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    Robby Los Doyers!

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    I remember we watched a video about this in high school a few years ago. It was about a group of people going to Uganda and seeing how people live there and about Kony but all it did was make everyone sad for a couple minutes.
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    in jail now for faping in public
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    If you don't usually like politics and a video really speaks to you then it's probably propaganda.


    Please people do the 2 seconds of research necessary to show how full of shit everyone involved in Kony 2012 is.
    Your first tip off should have been Russel lamenting that the US wouldn't use military intervention in Uganda. They support giving weapons to the Ugandan army who themselves have been engaged in pretty brutal acts.
    Look at this picture, they're just egotistical fame seekers.

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    A nice summary:

    [video=youtube;VpuB11d0Gog]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpuB11d0Gog[/video]
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    Haven't watched the summary video you posted Chat but I'd just like to mention a few things: the Invisible Children organization mostly employs film makers. They've probably spent a good portion of their donations creating this propaganda video only to sell their own merchandise to raise "awareness" for a cause that itself is outdated. While a high quality video production like the one they produced is great for reaching out to the public it should not have been used to promote the sale of anything. The video was touching at first for the majority of those who viewed it and didn't do any research or action past that. This is a good point to make, especially as it relates to the media: don't take what you see at face value, do your own research on the topic. We teach high schoolers all the time about proper sources and providing supporting evidence.
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    Annnnd this Kony2012 thing did nothing. Like I knew it would.
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    Except the date that shit is supposed to go down isn't until April is it?

    [video=youtube;hB1UbbjxNLQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hB1UbbjxNLQ[/video]
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    Didn't know about any of this when I posted the video, haha
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    I haven't even watched the dumb Kony video, but am I the only one who gets pissed off/infuriated just looking at the directors of this film? I just want to see all 3 of them run over by a bus.
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    Did you guys see the video of the creator of the Kony2012 video standing in a corner naked? Yeah, seems like a guy to lead a movement.
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    I've been watching both the pro- and anti- sides of the Kony2012 movement.
    Invisible Children themselves recently released a much better video. Less "Look at my cute kid, SAVE AFRICA", more hard facts and evidence. In fact Jason Russell isn't in the video at all. That helps.

    [youtube]c_Ue6REkeTA[/youtube]

    Don't get me wrong, Jason Russell and his crew are a bunch of wankers (Jason himself in a more literal sense), but they've apparently got good intentions (although Jason has some sort of weird religious agenda shit going on; see Chat's video), but this new video actually speaks some sense about the Kony issue. I wouldn't give any money to IC (and have told several people to avoid supporting them) but at least they're trying to right their wrongs.

    Kony2012 is a good platform to start a campaign to raise awareness of atrocities in Africa and throughout the world. The problem with it is that it's too vague, too simplified and spends its time dealing with just one of the multitude of problems that faces Africa every day. As evil as Kony is, remember that the Ugandan army (which Invisible Children actively support) are guilty of similar atrocities (and as a historical note the modern Ugandan army is descended from a rebel group which too used children in warfare) and actively defend the Ugandan government (responsible for the "Kill The Gays" law among other human rights abuses).
    As such, Kony 2012, despite its (supposedly) good intentions, is doomed to failure because it fails to address the big picture. The Kony 2012 Part II film is certainly a step in the right direction but still doesn't change many of the facts.

    IC are naive, to say the least. If you really want to help the developing world, give your money to the Red Cross or MSF or a similar organisation. Aid is a highly complex matter; in some cases it can weaken the countries it's supposed to help (and sometimes is used to weaken countries purposefully; some come with highly protectionist terms). Educate yourself and do the research before you take action. Never take a video like this at face value.

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