Slasher
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So DS backups are OK but PSX ISO's aren't....that's some messed up logic there....
The PSP doesn't emulate the DS in any playable state, so try again champ. We're talking about the PSP here.
So DS backups are OK but PSX ISO's aren't....that's some messed up logic there....
Well Ipaq, you can take that up with EvilSeph. What I said was a copy & paste of what EvilSeph posted in the HEN thread to shut people up
Besides, you're talking US laws. US laws don't account for the entire world - like Hellcat pointed out Germany is one of many that allows it.
The PSP doesn't emulate the DS in any playable state, so try again champ. We're talking about the PSP here.
You Shall Not:-
*Make copies of this product or any part thereof,...
*Unless an authorized copy of the Product is electronically delivered to you, copy this product onto a hard drive or other storage device; you must run this product from the included....Nintendo DS game card.
I'm talking US laws because that is where I am from and some other admins/staff. On the "internet" most of the websites are US-based and thus follow the US copyright laws and acts, thus the DMCA. US laws do not account for the entire world but they certainly account for me and my argument...
On the topic of ROMs = ISOs (ROMs != ISOs, that shouldn't even be an issue/subject)
On the topic of ROMs = ISOs (ROMs != ISOs, that shouldn't even be an issue/subject)
That's nice that most internet sites are US based. Does that have much of anything to do with what other countries copyright laws are? I don't think a whole lot. If I download a ROM of a game that I already own, then I'm legally doing so where I live.
At least we know how the US laws are now, but what about other countries?
You can't say "Slasher you are wrong to say that "ROMs are legal so long as you own the game", that's a completely wrong misconception." when you aren't even taking other countries into consideration. I'm not from the US, so US laws don't apply to me. Canadian laws say ROMS are legal if you own the game so that's why I said what I said. It's why I also said afterwards that "I suppose some countries don't allow it, but it's not completely illegal [in other countries]."
I'm looking at it from more of a broader perspective, taking other countries into account.
AGREED
You understood that I was discussing US Copyright Laws and I clearly stated a US act in my argument, I'm not arguing or ignoring other countries - I was just saying the way it was in my country. Also do you have proof that ROMs are legal in Canada if you own the game? I find that hard to believe, even if ES says it - where's the proof? That's something I was hoping you would procure up (or someone else)
I've been searching around for a good while now and can't find any concrete source that says it is indeed legal. I hear a lot of chitchatter though on forums and sites like yahoo answers that say it's not illegal in Canada.
Could you possibly likewise find something saying that it IS illegal to have roms in the US?
There's so much misinformation flying around, I don't know what to believe.
Well i'm talking about the PSP since that's where this entire discussion originated.
If you feel like randomly turning it around to piracy in general - excluding the PSP - then I don't feel like participating in this discussion :/
this whole discussion is based on piracy in general not *just* on the psp
Originally Posted by Slasher View Post
AGREEDOriginally Posted by FrozenIpaq View Post
On the topic of ROMs = ISOs (ROMs != ISOs, that shouldn't even be an issue/subject)
True, But Davee's reasons were not only legal (since this whole conversation started with the HEN).On purely legal grounds the reasons for not developing a way to play PSP/PSX games seems a bit nonsensical given we can play (for example) N64, GBA and SNES games to our hearts content. After all they're not giving these games away on the Virtual Console!
How can you agree to that but still maintain that there's a difference between PSX backups and N64 backups?