Archived achievements

[MrBaynie]

Sorry if that has been answered elsewhere already.

Steam introduced the feature of archiving achievements. Basically, the achievement still exist for people who unlocked it before the archival, but it does not appear for new players and does not count toward the 100%. For example on team fortress 2 the 4 achievements related to youtube videos are now archived.

How will exophase deal with those? I don't think these achievements should count toward completion. They could be regrouped in an "archived" section that doesn't count toward the completion.

 

[GAMERJET]

The Seasonal and Archive achievements on Steam sound like a mess honestly. I can see games loading up on 'Seasonal achievements' to keep people coming back and grinding forever. I think the issue with not counting certain achievements presents the issue of prior games not updating with this achievement set feature as it seems to be required for the game developer to implement it into their games. Their are countless Steam games with unobtainable achievements that are no longer supported and I can't see older games getting this support if the game developer needs to implement it.

I think this will be one of the cases where half will like the 'solution' and the other half won't like the 'solution'. I understand everyone wants the 'perfect' profile with everything completed and at 100%, but that's just not how it works with achievement hunting. Discontinued, unobtainable, broken achievements are just part of the hunt unfortunately.

 

[MrBaynie]

I think the issue with not counting certain achievements presents the issue of prior games not updating with this achievement set feature as it seems to be required for the game developer to implement it into their games.

My question is "how will exophase deal with archived achievements?".
If the achievement is not archived then it is off-topic. We keep considering those achievements as broken and the set is still not completable. Nothing changes.

I can see games loading up on 'Seasonal achievements' to keep people coming back and grinding forever.

That's exactly why I think archived achievements shouldn't be counted. Seasonal achievements are meant to be archived after the end of the season. So if we don't count archived achievements we can ignore that.

 

[x3sphere]

Right now we are not planning on doing anything with the archive stat until it's out of beta. The only thing that might be added soon is having a way to view which achievements have been marked as archived. There are plans to exclude unobtainable achievements from completions, but that is separate from this Steam feature and would apply to all tracked platforms on the site.

From my understanding these archived achievements can still be earned unless the entire group they are in is marked as archived. So I'm not sure it would make sense to exclude them completely. But it's possible Valve could still change this behavior since it's still in beta. So we'll have to see how it develops.