Legalization of Marijuana/Hemp

[Access_Denied]

I don't want it legalized. Pot leads to other drugs, and I've seen some good friends and family get to fucked up on drugs to ever want to experience that again. There's a reason it's not legal now. Hell, the only reason why alcohol is legal is because we tried to ban it, but it caused riots. We don't need to legalize it, then have to worry about banning it in 20 years.

 

[Joey]

that is just absurd. the potheads you know must be a lot different from the ones I've seen. they were always relaxed and kinda quiet.

The potheads I know talk about NOTHING but pot... I went to a school where I was litterally (not an exageration) the only person who didn't smoke pot. If there was another person, I didn't know him/her.

Holding a conversation with a pothead is impossbile... Everything is about pot, and about them trying to find a time and way to get high.

Worst two fucking years of my life.

Which is funny, because I have no problem with pot it's self, and believe it should be legal... Potheads just need to get a fucking life.

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I don't want it legalized. Pot leads to other drugs, and I've seen some good friends and family get to fucked up on drugs to ever want to experience that again. There's a reason it's not legal now. Hell, the only reason why alcohol is legal is because we tried to ban it, but it caused riots. We don't need to legalize it, then have to worry about banning it in 20 years.

Pot doesn't lead to other drugs, a lack of will power leads to other drugs.

Don't believe everything McGruff the crime dog tells you.

Prohibition led to crime, because people wanted alcohol, and they were going to get it weather it was legal or not, just like pot. Making it legal only makes it more dangerous, because it forces people to work around the law, and it raises the stakes, and turns everybody into a small time criminal.

It's the same reason protitution should be legal. It's a victim-free activity, that's actually only made dangerous because it's illegal. STD's aren't tested for, because there are no prostitution standards, and hookers have to work out of fear of the law, rather than having it availible to them when they need it.

It's all just different sides of the same coin. There is no benefit to having this stuff made illegal.

 

[Ciaran]

The potheads I know talk about NOTHING but pot... I went to a school where I was litterally (not an exageration) the only person who didn't smoke pot. If there was another person, I didn't know him/her.

Holding a conversation with a pothead is impossbile... Everything is about pot, and about them trying to find a time and way to get high.

Very different to the potheads I know, they just sound like boring people pot or no pot.

 

[Access_Denied]

Pot doesn't lead to other drugs, a lack of will power leads to other drugs.

Don't believe everything McGruff the crime dog tells you.

Prohibition led to crime, because people wanted alcohol, and they were going to get it weather it was legal or not, just like pot. Making it legal only makes it more dangerous, because it forces people to work around the law, and it raises the stakes, and turns everybody into a small time criminal.

It's the same reason protitution should be legal. It's a victim-free activity, that's actually only made dangerous because it's illegal. STD's aren't tested for, because there are no prostitution standards, and hookers have to work out of fear of the law, rather than having it availible to them when they need it.

It's all just different sides of the same coin. There is no benefit to having this stuff made illegal.

Yes, but most people who do pot DO have a lack of willpower. At least the ones that I know do.

Also, if they did make it legal, it would increase the numbers of people who use it. I know some people who quit smoking pot because of one reason or another, but I can guarantee, if it were made legal, they'd start up again. And making it legal would increase the number of people who try it, then start using regularly.

 

[ChurchedAtheist]

Also, if they did make it legal, it would increase the numbers of people who use it. I know some people who quit smoking pot because of one reason or another, but I can guarantee, if it were made legal, they'd start up again. And making it legal would increase the number of people who try it, then start using regularly.

is that a bad thing? or at least worse than it is w/ alcohol and cigarettes?

 

[Sir_Axxewraith]

I've been smoking weed for 2 years, I'm 15 so I'm technically weak minded, yet I'm very put off by the thought of cocaine and heroin. It's disgusting in fact.

People shouldn't be so stereotypical about weed.

btw, the stuff my friends dad grows is 21% THC if he really cares for the plant.

 

[Chathurga]

Access_Denied if what you're saying is even true then for the most part weed leads onto other drugs because it's illegal. If weed was legal most people wouldn't have the connections to obtain harder drugs since they would never have to come in contact with the appendages of the criminal underworld.

 

[Darth Budd]

I've been smoking weed for 2 years, I'm 15 so I'm technically weak minded, yet I'm very put off by the thought of cocaine and heroin. It's disgusting in fact.

People shouldn't be so stereotypical about weed.

btw, the stuff my friends dad grows is 21% THC if he really cares for the plant.

your too young to be smoking anything, go out and enjoy your childhood while it still lasts, when life hits the shitter a few years from now then go get high all you want.

 

[BlackBurd]

for medicinal purpose then yes. but for people wanting to get high then no.

I say no because it would be harder for dealers to sell any wit the competitive prices at places like wal-mart.

 

[eighty4]

for medicinal purpose then yes. but for people wanting to get high then no.

I say no because it would be harder for dealers to sell any wit the competitive prices at places like wal-mart.

This post alone TRULY makes you an idiot. I usually shouldn't be posting if I have to say something that shouldn't be said - but damn.

 

[Chathurga]

Seriously BlackBurd are you trolling? Please say yes because my god that post just about makes you the dumbest person I have ever seen on the forums.

Do you actually need an explanation for why your post lacked any sign of thought?

 

[ChurchedAtheist]

wait. you don't want it legal because it will screw over dealers? that is the dumbest reason I have ever heard. :facepalm:

 

[amrcidiot]

Just to point this out, Chathurga, you're post was at 4:20.... I'm just saying it was pretty coincidental.

Anywho, here's my view.
I've been with people when they are high and driving and I can guarantee that 100% of the time, they are better drivers, unless they smoke WAY too much and can't even function.

Pros of pot over other drugs:
No addiction
Easy to hide
Basically impossible to overdose.
You can make food with it and bring it to school.
Some what cheap (at least where I live compared to big cities, according to my friend)
Smells, but still not as much as alcohol or cigarettes.
Easy to hide effects.

Cons of pot over other drugs:
Can still get expensive it you use often.

I'm sure there's more for both sides.

I'm all for it.

 

[BlackBurd]

wait. you don't want it legal because it will screw over dealers? that is the dumbest reason I have ever heard. :facepalm:

Well I used too so i know ide be pissed.

All i know is when your really really broke you have to do something and if you sell crack you get way more jail time (in florida anyway i hear in ohio its the other way around).

 

[Sir_Axxewraith]

Just to point this out, Chathurga, you're post was at 4:20.... I'm just saying it was pretty coincidental.

Anywho, here's my view.
I've been with people when they are high and driving and I can guarantee that 100% of the time, they are better drivers, unless they smoke WAY too much and can't even function.

Pros of pot over other drugs:
No addiction
Easy to hide
Basically impossible to overdose.
You can make food with it and bring it to school.
Some what cheap (at least where I live compared to big cities, according to my friend)
Smells, but still not as much as alcohol or cigarettes.
Easy to hide effects.

Cons of pot over other drugs:
Can still get expensive it you use often.

I'm sure there's more for both sides.

I'm all for it.

I just started to like you a hell of a lot more.

 

[Noriyuke]

Medical Marijuana is legalized here, so okay to that poll option..

I personally don't really agree with the complete legalization of it. I think my main concern is the discreetness of being high - it's not particularly noticeable, unless you actually go around and flaunt it. I've known people in class who got high during lunch beforehand and it was hardly noticeable other than the fact that I knew they were. Spotting someone who is high vs. spotting someone who is drunk is a completely different story. The impaired aspect of it going hand in hand with driving is just a dangerous mix imo. With people essentially 'allowed' to be high, high impaired drivers wouldn't be nearly as easy to spot as a drunk driver, and I would without a doubt bet my 5 bucks that it would happen a lot more frequently as well.

While on the other hand, I do sort of agree with it being used as a recreational activity (in ones own privacy). But while still going back to that impaired factor, I'm a little torn between what I would deem allowed & not allowed, because ultimately the rule would probably be broken most of the time with the less-noticed impaired effects of it giving courage to someone wanting to get behind the wheel.

By keeping it illegal though, then I guess there's no worrying about anything involving it. I personally don't use it, so it doesn't directly affect me whether it's legal or illegal. I think legalizing it would ultimately lead to a whole lot more problems than if it were to just be left as it is right now

Yeah, i think that argument will go on till this government eventually collapses, but whatever, i personally voted no, and why?

Well its not because i don't support smoking, but I'm a grower mainly, not a buyer. And that would, for the most part, ruin growers in its essence, because we would be getting taxed for its possession, mind you, if their going to make it legal their sure as shit going to tax for the shit, and that's always been the major issue because SOOOO many people know how to grow it and hide it around here, like what punishments would they necessarily give for someone evading taxes on something so small? I don't know, but i think that's the major issue and always have been, no one's bee willing to take serious account of that major addition to tax law when they reform marijuana.

 

[ChurchedAtheist]

Yeah, i think that argument will go on till this government eventually collapses, but whatever, i personally voted no, and why?

Well its not because i don't support smoking, but I'm a grower mainly, not a buyer. And that would, for the most part, ruin growers in its essence, because we would be getting taxed for its possession, mind you, if their going to make it legal their sure as shit going to tax for the shit, and that's always been the major issue because SOOOO many people know how to grow it and hide it around here, like what punishments would they necessarily give for someone evading taxes on something so small? I don't know, but i think that's the major issue and always have been, no one's bee willing to take serious account of that major addition to tax law when they reform marijuana.

looking out for yourself. cant hate you for that.

 

[amrcidiot]

I just started to like you a hell of a lot more.

Well, thank you.

I have this awesome Minivan.
The reason that is the first statement is because it seats 7, and everyone loves it.

We call it the Man Van and there are quite a bit of burn cruises.
Unfortunately, it's shitty outside and I have two bald tires, so there aren't as many as before.... and my stereo decided to stop working, I think I need to replace a fuse.

Spoiler: Man Van

Pros of pot over other drugs:
No addiction
Easy to hide
Basically impossible to overdose.
You can make food with it and bring it to school.
Some what cheap (at least where I live compared to big cities, according to my friend)
Smells, but still not as much as alcohol or cigarettes.
Easy to hide effects.

I put "Easy to hide" twice, haha.
I meant to put effects after the first one.

 

[PSPZorZ]

Because I do not smoke, it really doesn't affect me whether it gets legalized or not...

But I think it's a great opportunity for the government to set a high tax, which will contribute to health care in America. Either way, America is moving toward a universal system of health care... why not tax one of the main causes of health concerns if we're going to be paying the medical bills either way?

Yeah, i think that argument will go on till this government eventually collapses, but whatever, i personally voted no, and why?

Well its not because i don't support smoking, but I'm a grower mainly, not a buyer. And that would, for the most part, ruin growers in its essence, because we would be getting taxed for its possession, mind you, if their going to make it legal their sure as shit going to tax for the shit, and that's always been the major issue because SOOOO many people know how to grow it and hide it around here, like what punishments would they necessarily give for someone evading taxes on something so small? I don't know, but i think that's the major issue and always have been, no one's bee willing to take serious account of that major addition to tax law when they reform marijuana.

I'm quite sure that if you're willing to break the law by growing it while it's illegal, you won't mind evading any possession tax while it's legal... and I'm sure the punishment given for growing it without paying the taxes is much less than growing it when it's completely illegal (but I could be wrong). You do realize that if it becomes legalized, everyone who wants to legally grow and sell pot will be paying the taxes... the result is prices will go up a bit. It's not as if you're the only one paying the tax, all pot farmers will and they will be forced to raise their prices, which will in effect do nothing but make the consumer pay more... you will still be making a reasonable profit.

Now if pot did become legal, you wouldn't really have to change your ways... At this point you are growing it and selling it illegally... and you could continue this even after it becomes legal. Legalization simply gives you an option of legitimately making a living off of pot, at the cost of having to pay taxes. It's a win-win situation, you can continue selling pot illegally like you were, or you can start selling it under the government's terms and know that you're not committing a crime!

 

[twelve]

Pros of pot over other drugs:
No addiction
Easy to hide
Basically impossible to overdose.
You can make food with it and bring it to school.
Some what cheap (at least where I live compared to big cities, according to my friend)
Smells, but still not as much as alcohol or cigarettes.
Easy to hide effects.

Cons of pot over other drugs:
Can still get expensive it you use often.

If it's legalized then why would Easy to Hide be a factor in it?

It's very easy to overdose, but unlike most drugs it's not life threatening, it's just gonna make you sick and give you a headache. Same as with a Nicotine overdose.

I find that weed (not resin) smells a hell of a lot more than tobacco. Unless your weed is old and stale. Even more so when you actually smoke it.

Making food with it is awesome tho, especially when you offer the food around to friends/family/colleagues and just watch the aftermath.

I'm sure if it was legalised it wouldn't be any cheaper though. If anything it'll be more expensive. Just like alcohol and tobacco it would have a high level of tax on it.