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Legalization of Marijuana/Hemp

I'm a little confused as to why hemp is listed on this poll in the way that it is. Without looking anything up, I'm pretty sure you can find plenty of products made with hemp all over the place and it has been perfectly legal for ever. (Shirts, paper, jewelry, food, etc.)
 
I'm a little confused as to why hemp is listed on this poll in the way that it is. Without looking anything up, I'm pretty sure you can find plenty of products made with hemp all over the place and it has been perfectly legal for ever. (Shirts, paper, jewelry, food, etc.)
Might not be legal in the thread creator's state. Or at least not for growing/smoking.
 
It's not here. You have to have a license to grow hemp and have a purpose built area (greenhouse/shed) for it, sticking a plant pot in the living room isn't good enough.
 
It's not here. You have to have a license to grow hemp and have a purpose built area (greenhouse/shed) for it, sticking a plant pot in the living room isn't good enough.

Nor is a bedroom in a 2 bedroom house dedicated to being a hydroponics setup. :/
 
looking out for yourself. cant hate you for that.

Heck yeah man, i mean shit, i LOOOVE WEEEED, but i don't want to see it manufactured and raped like tobacco has been for the past, oh i don't know, like since its inception?

Right now, to some, its still a mystery, not an exact science, it hasn't truly been tarnished. Mind you, pot smokers everywhere don't think its a mystery, I'm talking bout youngsters, tobacco to youngsters i like well known shit, what with all the stop smoking ads, i expect to see that in the oh so many years after weed gets legalized.

Because I do not smoke, it really doesn't affect me whether it gets legalized or not...

But I think it's a great opportunity for the government to set a high tax, which will contribute to health care in America. Either way, America is moving toward a universal system of health care... why not tax one of the main causes of health concerns if we're going to be paying the medical bills either way?



I'm quite sure that if you're willing to break the law by growing it while it's illegal, you won't mind evading any possession tax while it's legal... and I'm sure the punishment given for growing it without paying the taxes is much less than growing it when it's completely illegal (but I could be wrong). You do realize that if it becomes legalized, everyone who wants to legally grow and sell pot will be paying the taxes... the result is prices will go up a bit. It's not as if you're the only one paying the tax, all pot farmers will and they will be forced to raise their prices, which will in effect do nothing but make the consumer pay more... you will still be making a reasonable profit.

Now if pot did become legal, you wouldn't really have to change your ways... At this point you are growing it and selling it illegally... and you could continue this even after it becomes legal. Legalization simply gives you an option of legitimately making a living off of pot, at the cost of having to pay taxes. It's a win-win situation, you can continue selling pot illegally like you were, or you can start selling it under the government's terms and know that you're not committing a crime! :)

Dud, i never said i was selling, i just brought it up, i know a lot who grow and sell, i grow to experiment, like i buy seeds and have fancy grow light setups and whatnot only for shits and giggles, i honestly cant smoke for another year, seeing as I'm on probation, and I'm sure you are all thinking its because of pot, while I'm sad to say its for multiple grand theft autos and possession of cocaine. I never really had to pay for much of anything when it comes to pot unless you want to consider all the time and effort i put in rebuilding old setups in my garage, and electricity. I get my equipment from previous growers wives/husbands who have to get rid of the shit for a short time while their husbands/wives have to spend some jail time or probation time to clear their names for something. So i learned hydroponics and experimented with all the free goodies that were sitting in my garage for the longest time, alas now its my turn to have an empty garage. But my whole point being that it shouldn't be legalized either way is because its just going to become another product, another fad, something people will soon forget and want to stop doing, or done to such excess, that new problems never before considered to be possible start to sprout up.

Examples:
Like many jobs are going to have to change certain policies, and enforce a little more on current policies, i can imagine more mistakes being make on account of people trying to huge how fucked up they are after taking 34 consecutive gravity bong hits an hour before going to work as cashier at McDonald's. Average Wait times will increase 150 fold for some places, more people will be seen without jobs.

Yeah, Amsterdam has it legalized, but shit, they also have legal prostitution, does that mean we need that too? Sprout up a whole new line of work? I mean shit, seeing my current relationship situation, i would fucking love legal prostitution, i mean, a Ho-Mart would be lovely. But it will have repercussions, i don't see much happening on these terms in the states, not trying to sound like an ass or anything, that's just how i see it.

I see that so much, I'm trying to place systems in the states to keep me up to date tech wise while i move to the Dominican republic so i can smoke my head off, snort my head off, buy a whore house, and maintain my business's through the internet, until i generate some children and wither away, but i don't see that happening for about another 20-40 years. But that's my main goal.

In my minds eye, i see this country(USA) as too fucked up to handle something like that being legal, i mean, look at how were currently handling ourselves when it comes to alcohol? We have some serious accidents happen all the time and many other tragic things thanks to the legalization of alcohol, and i know for a fact we would have Civil War 2 if the government even thinks of doing another prohibition. So their slowly funding all this publicity bullshit to make it illegal, they want a productive country, their scared that the current productive countries are going to start PWNING us. Which all other countries, in my opinion, kinda decided just to use us and abuse us. What will all the lead paint in toys and defective electronics and stuff. This place has lost is SUPER POWER-ness and more or less become a giant mall. Which is lame. Because the coolest shit isn't even from here, just shipped here.
 
All I can say is that's not a life I would want for me. At all... Your ideals seem completely backwards tbh.
Does it all stem from a world surrounded by drugs? Probably :/
 
All I can say is that's not a life I would want for me. At all... Your ideals seem completely backwards tbh.
Does it all stem from a world surrounded by drugs? Probably :/

Well, in my minds eye, its the alternative to what i really want, because what i really want will never happen yo.

I want a world where people dont have greed built in, where ideals and ideas can be shared in a level of global consciousness, i hope that when we do that, our world becomes so advanced that it cant be contained here anymore, we move onto other worlds, terraform, develop man made solar systems even. I want technology to surpass our imaginations, but from the way i see it, humanity is too fucking retarded and greedy. So the whole drugs and whores things works fine for me as an alternative.

And mind you, while working my ass to make those connections i was telling you about, im trying really hard to teach and inform people to better themselves, but they mostly see me as a hypocrite so i leave it alone.
 
Pros of pot over other drugs:
No addiction
Easy to hide
Basically impossible to overdose.
You can make food with it and bring it to school.
Some what cheap (at least where I live compared to big cities, according to my friend)
Smells, but still not as much as alcohol or cigarettes.
Easy to hide effects.

Cons of pot over other drugs:
Can still get expensive it you use often.

Addiction really depends on the person, anything that is enjoyed can become an addiction. There are thousands of people addicted to video games, yet the government isn't trying to outlaw gaming. We cannot decide that something should be completely outlawed due to a few oddballs who do happen to get addicted. We do need to keep strict laws on who is allowed to use this drug though, same as cigarettes and alcohol.

Dud, i never said i was selling, i just brought it up, i know a lot who grow and sell, i grow to experiment, like i buy seeds and have fancy grow light setups and whatnot only for shits and giggles, i honestly cant smoke for another year, seeing as I'm on probation, and I'm sure you are all thinking its because of pot, while I'm sad to say its for multiple grand theft autos and possession of cocaine. I never really had to pay for much of anything when it comes to pot unless you want to consider all the time and effort i put in rebuilding old setups in my garage, and electricity. I get my equipment from previous growers wives/husbands who have to get rid of the shit for a short time while their husbands/wives have to spend some jail time or probation time to clear their names for something. So i learned hydroponics and experimented with all the free goodies that were sitting in my garage for the longest time, alas now its my turn to have an empty garage. But my whole point being that it shouldn't be legalized either way is because its just going to become another product, another fad, something people will soon forget and want to stop doing, or done to such excess, that new problems never before considered to be possible start to sprout up.

Examples:
Like many jobs are going to have to change certain policies, and enforce a little more on current policies, i can imagine more mistakes being make on account of people trying to huge how fucked up they are after taking 34 consecutive gravity bong hits an hour before going to work as cashier at McDonald's. Average Wait times will increase 150 fold for some places, more people will be seen without jobs.

Yeah, Amsterdam has it legalized, but shit, they also have legal prostitution, does that mean we need that too? Sprout up a whole new line of work? I mean shit, seeing my current relationship situation, i would fucking love legal prostitution, i mean, a Ho-Mart would be lovely. But it will have repercussions, i don't see much happening on these terms in the states, not trying to sound like an ass or anything, that's just how i see it.

I see that so much, I'm trying to place systems in the states to keep me up to date tech wise while i move to the Dominican republic so i can smoke my head off, snort my head off, buy a whore house, and maintain my business's through the internet, until i generate some children and wither away, but i don't see that happening for about another 20-40 years. But that's my main goal.

In my minds eye, i see this country(USA) as too fucked up to handle something like that being legal, i mean, look at how were currently handling ourselves when it comes to alcohol? We have some serious accidents happen all the time and many other tragic things thanks to the legalization of alcohol, and i know for a fact we would have Civil War 2 if the government even thinks of doing another prohibition. So their slowly funding all this publicity bullshit to make it illegal, they want a productive country, their scared that the current productive countries are going to start PWNING us. Which all other countries, in my opinion, kinda decided just to use us and abuse us. What will all the lead paint in toys and defective electronics and stuff. This place has lost is SUPER POWER-ness and more or less become a giant mall. Which is lame. Because the coolest shit isn't even from here, just shipped here.

I'm not concerned if pot becomes a fad... this is a case of human rights. If your fear of pot-smoking becoming popular is what makes you not want pot legal, well then maybe you need to get your priorities straight.

How does legalizing marijuana affect business practices? If someone is high at work and is doing a bad job, they get fired. It's as simple as that. This happens everyday, and will continue to happen if it were to be legal.

Legal pot is not a slippery slope to legal prostitution. They are in no way related. You speak of repercussions of legal prostitution but you didn't even explain one effect. I believe it's legal in Nevada, the world hasn't ended :P

There's no way alcohol will be made illegal anytime soon... The states simply wouldn't elect that many congressmen who want that. I know there are plenty of problems with alcohol legal, but it's simple, all Americans should not be deprived of rights when there are a few idiots who drive drunk/etc. The best we can do is make tougher laws to prevent this or increase the penalty for breaking the law. And honestly, weed isn't nearly as dangerous as alcohol anyways.
 
If it becomes legal ... i would say expect either a price increase or on the other hand not much change at all. If Marijuana is taxed the price could increase on it by for the UK 15% overall, but then again its not going to need to be increased alot because there isnt any people taking the risks of growing/selling and having to charge for their service of what they are doing.

If that makes any sense to you i would say the price is likely to either stay the same or increase a little.
 
The problem is, like alcohol, people abuse this.

I'm all for sitting down and watching a movie or having some music on with some friends and smoking a few joints, but certain people abuse it and give it a bad name by doing stupid stuff.
 
I don't want it legalized, because then there will be STRICT laws re: marijauna. Imagine pharmaceutical companies, or WORSE Con-Agra or Monsanto running the 420 business. HA!

Right now the law and it's enforcement is a grey-area. It's reached a nice balance where the gov't is making enough busts to make $$, and the intelligent users stay out of trouble. The only downside with this balance is that the suppliers are still at risk, and that's just selfish for users to be okay with.

I've always lived in Northern California, and the attitude towards marijuana is pretty complacent even among non-smokers. However public opinions always differ per state/country what have you. I think keeping it a state-issue is a good idea.
 
I don't understand why its illegal in the first place. I mean its my body I can do whatever I want, as long as I'm not driving soon after or something.

If they're concerned about the "welfare" of certain social groups then I think that's just stupid. A bum will always remain a wasted bum regardless of whether he can dope up or not.
 
Hemp is fine, as it has a use, just so long as it doesn't really contain any THC.

THC makes everybody I know stupid beyond end, it's annoying.
 
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