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x3sphere

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A few things to note - Xbox offers images in rectangle and square format. The current icons on the Xbox Series / One side are not custom ones. Xbox 360 only had small squares or boxart, however. The cropping issues should be on 360 games only.

I'm not sure about not having a uniform size. That's what Sony are doing now with the trophy lists on PS5, when you browse through your trophies the PS4 and earlier icons have a max-height set. It just doesn't look that good in my opinion.

Switching to square-only would work fine for PSN and Xbox for the most part, although I'm not sure about Steam. The icons there are rectangle and I couldn't see auto cropping them to square working well (logos are often off center as well, there's no standard).

Take this icon as an example... https://i.exophase.com/steam/games/o/651b07.png?1604468252

The current auto crop works fine here, but if it was auto cropped to a square it wouldn't. There are a lot of instances like this. At the moment, I'm curious how Sony will handle it on their legacy systems, presumably you will be able to view PS5 trophies from a PS4 at some point - but currently they do not show up there. It's possible they will display the rectangle icons there.

For multiplatform titles we could also auto swap the icons (i.e. a new PS5 game would automatically have its icon replaced with the Xbox one). Although this would depend on the Xbox version of a game getting inserted to the DB first, which isn't always the case
 
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A few things to note - Xbox offers images in rectangle and square format. The current icons on the Xbox Series / One side are not custom ones. Xbox 360 only had small squares or boxart, however. The cropping issues should be on 360 games only.

I'm not sure about not having a uniform size. That's what Sony are doing now with the trophy lists on PS5, when you browse through your trophies the PS4 and earlier icons have a max-height set. It just doesn't look that good in my opinion.

Switching to square-only would work fine for PSN and Xbox for the most part, although I'm not sure about Steam. The icons there are rectangle and I couldn't see auto cropping them to square working well (logos are often off center as well, there's no standard).

Take this icon as an example... https://i.exophase.com/steam/games/o/651b07.png?1604468252

The current auto crop works fine here, but if it was auto cropped to a square it wouldn't. There are a lot of instances like this. At the moment, I'm curious how Sony will handle it on their legacy systems, presumably you will be able to view PS5 trophies from a PS4 at some point - but currently they do not show up there. It's possible they will display the rectangle icons there.

For multiplatform titles we could also auto swap the icons (i.e. a new PS5 game would automatically have its icon replaced with the Xbox one). Although this would depend on the Xbox version of a game getting inserted to the DB first, which isn't always the case
Ah, you're right I forgot the Xbox One icons are actually rectangular. Having a quick scroll through the Xbox One list the logos in them tend to be very small so I'm guessing those wide images are used as large images somewhere rather than small icons, so they're not the worst but also not ideal either.

Steam is an interesting issue (though I think even their rectangular icons are still quite often cropped awkwardly) and ultimately I prefer a uniform size like you do, but I think I dislike cropped images more. What if square was considered the standard/prefered icon shape but non-uniform sizes are used when square images aren't available? Again, making square icons from box art is much easier than the PS4 size. Alternately what if the icon frame is always square but any empty spaced is auto-filled in some way? That might be a workable compromise.

I highly doubt Sony also have rectangular icons for PS5 games just for use on the older systems. I imagine if they update the PS4 UI to display PS5 games in the trophy list they'll just appear the way they do on PS5.

I guess it's not quite as straightforward as I initially thought but I still don't think replacing every new PS5 game is very practical. I feel like there must be a way to use non-uniform icons but still make it work and look good... somehow.
 

x3sphere

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Ah, you're right I forgot the Xbox One icons are actually rectangular. Having a quick scroll through the Xbox One list the logos in them tend to be very small so I'm guessing those wide images are used as large images somewhere rather than small icons, so they're not the worst but also not ideal either.

Steam is an interesting issue (though I think even their rectangular icons are still quite often cropped awkwardly) and ultimately I prefer a uniform size like you do, but I think I dislike cropped images more. What if square was considered the standard/prefered icon shape but non-uniform sizes are used when square images aren't available? Again, making square icons from box art is much easier than the PS4 size. Alternately what if the icon frame is always square but any empty spaced is auto-filled in some way? That might be a workable compromise.

I highly doubt Sony also have rectangular icons for PS5 games just for use on the older systems. I imagine if they update the PS4 UI to display PS5 games in the trophy list they'll just appear the way they do on PS5.

I guess it's not quite as straightforward as I initially thought but I still don't think replacing every new PS5 game is very practical. I feel like there must be a way to use non-uniform icons but still make it work and look good... somehow.
They have some rectangle images on the PS Store (scroll down under Editions) - https://store.playstation.com/en-us/concept/10000428

I didn't check if those are available for every game yet, almost all the PS5 games seem to have them though. Using those from the PS Store may be an option, the only issue is that sometimes trophy lists go live before there is a proper store listing (though that happens less often these days, they've stopped uploading the lists so early).

That's why I thought they might show these on the PS4 side, considering the images do exist. But it's very possible they end up just doing it the same as PS5.

What if square was considered the standard/prefered icon shape but non-uniform sizes are used when square images aren't available? Again, making square icons from box art is much easier than the PS4 size. Alternately what if the icon frame is always square but any empty spaced is auto-filled in some way? That might be a workable compromise.

May be an option, I'll have to discuss it with the rest of the team. We've also considered an alternate view for the games list that would use box art images (would be optional).
 
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They have some rectangle images on the PS Store (scroll down under Editions) - https://store.playstation.com/en-us/concept/10000428

I didn't check if those are available for every game yet, almost all the PS5 games seem to have them though. Using those from the PS Store may be an option, the only issue is that sometimes trophy lists go live before there is a proper store listing (though that happens less often these days, they've stopped uploading the lists so early).

That's why I thought they might show these on the PS4 side, considering the images do exist. But it's very possible they end up just doing it the same as PS5.

May be an option, I'll have to discuss it with the rest of the team. We've also considered an alternate view for the games list that would use box art images (would be optional).
I'd be very surprised if they used those store images for that. They look very purpose-made for where they currently are, and I doubt they'll have them for games that just have a standard edition in the store and nothing else, but we'll see I guess.

I had a quick tinker to see how square icons and box art would look (retaining the current 127px width) and I'm actually really into it. While they aren't wider, the extra height makes them feel bigger without looking overly large. Of course even if they do look a bit big you could always set a smaller size for the compact view I guess, but screen resolutions are only getting higher all the time anyway. Any platform with square box art (see the game boy games) automatically looks great. As I've mentioned before, just cropping box art to square is so much easier, see the Tekken games before and after, looks so much better than the current auto-cropped icons.

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Even when using box art with different heights without any cropping, the irregular sizing doesn't stand out/bother me as much as I thought it would (probably thanks to the sleek design of the site, honestly).

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Of course tall box art can still be trimmed shorter by removing the console banner normally across the top (Xbox, Gamecube, PS2, etc) and is often like that by default on many sites like wikipedia and giant bomb anyway.

How would you feel about three options? I'm thinking:
1. 127x70 - "Old PSN style" (if you insist on keeping it)
2. 127x127 - "New square style" any platforms without square icons use box art by default, cropped if necessary
3. 127x??? - "Full Box art" just untouched box art, fixed width but any height

Option 2 being the middleground/best of both worlds option. As I mentioned before PS5, Xbox One and Series S/X all have square icons by default and several other platforms either have square icons available or have square box art. Any that don't have either can use auto-cropped box art by default and since it's less restrictive than 127x70 the results should almost always be better.

I just thought some visual examples might be useful, let me know what you think 👍
 

D4n1v4l

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Now there is a wrong image in it. The In-Game Editor is something different and with it you can change things directly in the game. The other one is something like the editor to change leagues and cups. Normally there was always a separate image for this, but not this year. So I had taken it out of the SteamDB.
 
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